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WHL wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:08 pm

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:22 pm

WHL wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:14 am Your opinion Dominic, .It seems you can only talk about gay issues if your pro Gay, if you disagree with gay marriage etc your a bigot, Dominic you call someone a Bigot for not agreeing with your views..really

I called you a bigot because you turned a news report about a play about gay people being banned, into a diatribe about gay rights.

This article has nothing to do with gay marriage. It has nothing to do with what our kids are being forced to do at school etc. It is about a play shown in a theatre. How is it any different from a play dealing with a heterosexual relationship?

I cannot get over your sheer, blatant hypocrisy!

You should try reading what I said...I dont give a fig what people get up too regards their sex lifes, If you think being against gay marriage is being hypercritical, then thats your opinion, please allow others to have their own opinion,

You still don't get it. The thread had nothing to do with gay marriage. You brought the subject into the thread. This is no different from a Brexiter in Aldershot moaning about the number of Nepalese in the area because of the EU. You would have no qualms about laying into them.

You have been rude to lots of people here for having different views to your own. You are infamous for it. At least take some of your own medicine.

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:03 pm What law was broken?

Various Human Rights laws.
Amos.

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:54 pm

WHL wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:08 pm

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:22 pm

I called you a bigot because you turned a news report about a play about gay people being banned, into a diatribe about gay rights.

This article has nothing to do with gay marriage. It has nothing to do with what our kids are being forced to do at school etc. It is about a play shown in a theatre. How is it any different from a play dealing with a heterosexual relationship?

I cannot get over your sheer, blatant hypocrisy!

You should try reading what I said...I dont give a fig what people get up too regards their sex lifes, If you think being against gay marriage is being hypercritical, then thats your opinion, please allow others to have their own opinion,

You still don't get it. The thread had nothing to do with gay marriage. You brought the subject into the thread. This is no different from a Brexiter in Aldershot moaning about the number of Nepalese in the area because of the EU. You would have no qualms about laying into them.

You have been rude to lots of people here for having different views to your own. You are infamous for it. At least take some of your own medicine.

I know what the thread was about, With respect, I think its you that dosnt get it, I dont care what sexuality anyone is, it aint going to change my life...I dont care what plays are put on, no one puts a gun to anyones head to go and watch it,.I just said I dont want to see it every time I watch TV,.. the thread was about a gay play, it is not unreasonable to expand on the subject, like 99% of the other posts on the forum...As for your Brexit analogy, ???... As for being rude to lots of people on here, You will find I respond in kind, if someone is civil to me Im civil to them...no problem taking my own medicine when its deserved, but on the thread I fail to see where ive been rude, it seems if you dare say anything that might upset the gay lobby, your a bigot.

But there is no gay lobby, not on this forum! That's what I find so amusing about your tantrum. You don't even know what my views on gay marriage are!

I just pointed out that you reacted exactly like other posters have with regards to different topics. Yet when THEY reacted like that, you had no hesitation in calling them bigots and what-have-you. To me that is hypocrisy. I can say that without even stating what my view on the subject is.

For the record:

Should this play have been banned? From what I have read, no.

Should religions have to marry gay people even if it is against their beliefs? No.

Should gay people be allowed to have civil weddings. Yes.

Civil partnerships should be abolished.

Now if anybody else has different views, that is fine. I fully accept your viewpoint and respect you as much or as little as I have always done. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

Right I wasn't suggesting there is a gay lobby on the forum, I was talking about generally. I didnt think it was a tantrum, I was just stating my opinion, maybe the way I post comes across like that, as for your..the record I agree with everyone,except the civil weddings i dont have a problem with them, cheers, Il bow out now, let others give their views.

Dominic,
why do you say Civil Partnerships should be abolished?
Amos.

exodus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:02 pm Dominic,
why do you say Civil Partnerships should be abolished?
Amos.

Because they aren't needed. Gay people can get married just like straight people, so there is no need for a civil partnership, which was introduced because gay people couldn't get married.

That is what I have always assumed a civil partnership was, anyway.

OK, there are two issues in this thread, so I will split my contribution into two parts.

1. The play. It seems from the brief report, that the play was banned in this municipality to avoid disruption. My assumption is that such disruption would only come from the Cypriot Orthodox Church and their followers, as their anti-gay views are well known and they have a lot of clout in Cyprus. It is a shame that so-called Christians have forgotten the "love thy neighbour" aspect of Christianity. The play should have been allowed and people should either attend or not according to their wishes.

2. The wider discussion on gay issues. I lived for much of my life in a City where perhaps 25% of the population was gay, and have worked in organisations where heterosexuals were in the minority. Because of this familiarity with gay people I feel comfortable with them, and am a supporter of gay marriage and the current public efforts to level the playing field with regard to gay rights etc. I suggest much of the anti gay feeling is based on a lack of familiarity, as with anti Black or anti foreigner feelings (i.e. fear of the unknown). I don't think anyone would criticise the efforts that have been going on for some time now to level the playing field in regard to Black and Asian rights. The blatant racism of the media in the 60 has gone. It seems to me that gay people are on the same journey but not as far advanced.

Much of the anti gay marriage position has been along the lines of "marriage is meant to be between a man and a woman". Who says so?

I don't care either way, there's no harm to anyone...

"Live and let live" as the saying goes, but if WHL just stops watching TV I reckon he will have a much happier life.

There's always a simple solution if you're prepared to look for it

josef k wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:07 pm
2. The wider discussion on gay issues. I lived for much of my life in a City where perhaps 25% of the population was gay, and have worked in organisations where heterosexuals were in the minority. Because of this familiarity with gay people I feel comfortable with them, and am a supporter of gay marriage and the current public efforts to level the playing field with regard to gay rights etc.

Do you mind if I ask which city is 25% gay?

Dominic wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:06 pm

exodus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:02 pm Dominic,
why do you say Civil Partnerships should be abolished?
Amos.

Because they aren't needed. Gay people can get married just like straight people, so there is no need for a civil partnership, which was introduced because gay people couldn't get married.

That is what I have always assumed a civil partnership was, anyway.

With respect that is rubbish. You mean in your opinion there is no need. Clearly for many they are needed, for whatever reason/s (e.g. property rights). I don't see any reason to abolish them.
If someone said they saw no need for forums like this one would you agree they should therefore be abolished?
Sorry Dominic but that is how I feel about it.
Amos.

Hang on, for somebody who claims to be from Israel, you seem awfully interested in UK matters.

Your comparison with forums makes no sense whatsoever.

There is no need for civil partnerships. They were introduced so that gay people could have the same legal status as married people. Now they can achieve that aim by getting married.

If you want an accurate analogy, there is no need for segregated seating in US buses any more, because segregation was abolished.

Dominic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:54 am Hang on, for somebody who claims to be from Israel, you seem awfully interested in UK matters.

Your comparison with forums makes no sense whatsoever.

There is no need for civil partnerships. They were introduced so that gay people could have the same legal status as married people. Now they can achieve that aim by getting married.

If you want an accurate analogy, there is no need for segregated seating in US buses any more, because segregation was abolished.

This thread is about CYPRUS, not the UK.
Yes, I am an Israeli.
If some same sex couples wish to have a civil partnership, rather than getting married, that Is their decision, not yours!
I think you should show more respect for such people.
Amos.

Gay people cannot get married in Cyprus. They have to rely on civil partnerships. In the UK, which is what I was referring to when I mentioned it, gay people can get married.

Obviously, if there is no gay marriage, then civil partnerships are needed. But I am sure the gay community would rather have marriage than civil partnerships in Cyprus, if they were given the option.

I have full respect for gay people, and find your tone incredibly patronising. Something tells me that was your intention.

Dominic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:20 am Gay people cannot get married in Cyprus. They have to rely on civil partnerships. In the UK, which is what I was referring to when I mentioned it, gay people can get married.

Obviously, if there is no gay marriage, then civil partnerships are needed. But I am sure the gay community would rather have marriage than civil partnerships in Cyprus, if they were given the option.

I have full respect for gay people, and find your tone incredibly patronising. Something tells me that was your intention.

We will have to agree to disagree about civil partnerships.
Regards being "patronising" that is exactly what I found your earlier post saying "I claimed to be an Israeli" was.
That is what I am, can't change that, but why did you say it? I have not noticed you saying that about the nationality of any of the British expats on this forum!
Amos.

Your mannerisms remind me very much of a banned poster on here, who is a British expat. Had you said you were from Iceland, I would have said Iceland.

As to the banned poster, he could be charming at times and make some very valid points. At other times he was an idiot. He wasn't banned for either reason. He was banned for not knowing when to shut up.

josef k wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:07 pm
2. The wider discussion on gay issues. I lived for much of my life in a City where perhaps 25% of the population was gay, and have worked in organisations where heterosexuals were in the minority.

I'd still like to know which City josef k is referring to when he claims it was 25% gay? I don't believe such a city exists, even the city in the UK with the largest gay population (London) only has about 2-3%.

London's more than 2-3%. Way less than 25% though.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... itals.html

Apparently Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world, though my scant search didn't throw up any exact figures.

Dominic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:59 pm London's more than 2-3%. Way less than 25% though.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... itals.html

Apparently Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world, though my scant search didn't throw up any exact figures.

News to me. But there are quite a lot, I would guess about 8%.
Amos.

This was where I got that info from:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/t ... story.html