Paphos Life

Hudswell wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:34 pm That's not quite what I said is It, I suggested that the Government take the lead in the initiative, build and registration of the facility....and yes put out tenders for appropriately qualified agencies to run them.....if the Government just sits back nothing will happen.

The Government will never put a penny into this, many reasons..no votes in it....dosnt have spare cash for something like this...the Church would be against it, as the Orthodox religion is against cremation etc etc...so its down to private enterprise.

We used to get updates on the situation from Mo Watt, a lovely Scottish Lady, who runs Angel Guardians. I don't think she has moved over from CL but if someone knows her perhaps they could ask her to join Paphos Life. Her knowledge of the Funeral Business is extensive and helpful.

Aargent wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:34 pm We used to get updates on the situation from Mo Watt, a lovely Scottish Lady, who runs Angel Guardians. I don't think she has moved over from CL but if someone knows her perhaps they could ask her to join Paphos Life. Her knowledge of the Funeral Business is extensive and helpful.

It would indeed be good if Mo Watts Joined the group.

If somebody who knows her wants to invite Mo on board she will be more than welcome. I can set up a section if needs be too.

trevnhil wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:24 am

WHL wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:57 am We paid a cemetery tax for a number of years, this is usually for upkeep or buying land for a new cemetery,..as Trev has said, it allows you to be buried there, but the plot etc is extra.....I did refuse to pay for some months my argument being, I wanted to be shipped back to London, when the day comes,the local council even send a young lady round to my house to talk some sense into me before they prosecuted me, basically she was very polite, and explained it wasn't an opt out scheme, just like you pay for a library, you pay whether you use it or not....I paid up .

Now I find this strange.. In Polemi it is an opt out scheme if that is what you want. I did have to write a letter to that effect and take it to the council offices.

Trev..

I got the same message Trevor, so at least it's consistent.

Clive Turner, is a long time friend and neighbour of mine. I know that he has done and is doing, his utmost to get the crematorium built. Although a law has been passed in the House of Representatives eventually, which allows the building of crematoria, the government, or rather the Interior Ministry is still stalling on the practical side of getting a suitabke site on which to build it, and is currently refusing to answer any of his letters on this subject. Money, and plans for the building of a crematorium are ready I have been told.
Meanwhile Clive is not getting any younger and has health issues himself.
Shame on the Cyprus Govt for stalling tactics thus not letting this project go ahead.
Dee

If you pay the cemetary tax in Polemi it allows you to be buried in the cemetary at a greatly reduced cost to those who haven't paid and you can opt out if you wish. There is no discrimination made re birthplace.

Concerning cemetaries, as Flossie says the British Cemetary at Erimi is the best option for expats, unless you are ex British Military and qualified to be buried at the Military Cemetary at Dhekelia. As cemetaries go, it is much like an English cemetary with graves spaced out, surrounded by grass and mature trees.
Some village cemetaries are small and grossly overcrowded. That at Kili being like that. Other local cemetaries as well as being overcrowded may also lack the depth of soil necessary for this purpose.
As I said right at the beginning, each village has its own rules and charges as they are fairly autominous. It is better to ask in the village concerned.

Dee

I like the cluttered Cypriot graveyards. I think from the variety of responses that the answer is to ask the Mukhtar. Thanks for the help.

Until the Church decides there will be a Crematorium, there won't be one.

Alan

It is a real shame that the Govt and probably the Orthodox church are reluctant to see a crematorium actually built. The govt are holding up the actual permits required to get the project off the ground. It appears that some of them are not really aware of what a modern crematorium is like. It must be very frustrating for poor Clive who has put so much effort into trying to get it built.
I have been told by him that he has a petition signed by about 10,000 people who are behind this project.
Meanwhile, there is a general shortage of plots in cemetaries. Although burial is the accepted custom in the Orthodox Church, there are many foreigners here these days who call Cyprus home, and a number of them would prefer cremation to burial.
Dee

So, I expect that the present Govt are hoping that this wish to build a crematorium will just go away, as the people who wanted it, wishes and EU diktats ignored in Cyprus, will just give up and eventually will die off...

Dee

How about simple economic factors? Unless a crematorium has, say, 4 or 5 services/day you could never amortise the high cost, estimated in millions (an old estimate not counting modern environmental requirements, which would add another £600,000) gave £2,800,000 and this does not include fuel, ground staff, operators, not counting 5000 m2 of land for garden of rest, car park etc. Who would be willing to pay the cost?

Devil wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:51 pm How about simple economic factors? Unless a crematorium has, say, 4 or 5 services/day you could never amortise the high cost, estimated in millions (an old estimate not counting modern environmental requirements, which would add another £600,000) gave £2,800,000 and this does not include fuel, ground staff, operators, not counting 5000 m2 of land for garden of rest, car park etc. Who would be willing to pay the cost?

Thank you Devil, I have been trying to point this out, in my last few posts, even if the go ahead is given, there is not enough demand to make it viable.

I wonder if anyone has looked into Hydo cremation. Seems to be the latest thing in USA and far better for the environment.

Burial at sea? Funeral pyre? I think the latter sounds a good cheap way of cremation. Cost? Maybe a tonne of old palettes?

PS I've got about 20 old palettes here in bad condition, free for the taking, if anyone wants them

Got to laugh, when people say I want a cremation/Burial etc...Er your be dead, you wont know whats happening to you

Devil wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:53 am Burial at sea? Funeral pyre? I think the latter sounds a good cheap way of cremation. Cost? Maybe a tonne of old palettes?

PS I've got about 20 old palettes here in bad condition, free for the taking, if anyone wants them

Cheapskate, nothing less then a good grade of hardwood thanks

Devil wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:53 am Burial at sea? Funeral pyre? I think the latter sounds a good cheap way of cremation. Cost? Maybe a tonne of old palettes?

PS I've got about 20 old palettes here in bad condition, free for the taking, if anyone wants them

Burial at sea sounds good.