Paphos Life

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:19 am Actually your last sentence is not far from the reality.....after the 2003 Iraq war there was a period of relative calm, and then the insurgents moved in filling the vacuum left by the removal of Hussain..there simply was not a plan and i do believe that was the failure of the west, but also the complete inability of the country to grasp the oppourtunity and put their tribal animosity behind them.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:23 pm HIC, I am afraid the can of worms was opened many years ago..ISIS and those that will follow was envitable..it is the nature of the "religion" that these people relate to..and it will continue to grow and will infect the world..and I for one would rather it was exterminated in its countries of birth rather on the streets of my children....or Cyprus, or any any other country...I am not defending Bush or Blair...but I will defend an Armed Forces that defended and continue to defend its country...

Kili01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:55 pm There is a great deal of truth in what Hudswell has written. Whether you happen to agree or not!! To me it seems very sad and rather unpatriotic for Britsh persons to continually seek to twist what has been documented and explained by Hudswell about the basis on which the SBA's were set up.
As he said, had the Greek Cypriots chosen to wait a bit for their Independance, it could have been implemented without a guerilla war in which there were many needless deaths.
Examples of an orderly handover of power in former British Colonies are in Malta and more recently in Hong Kong. In both cases there was an absence of bloodshed and relations between these countries and the UK were and have remained very good.
Dee

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:42 am

WHL wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:57 pm

Kili01 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:55 pm There is a great deal of truth in what Hudswell has written. Whether you happen to agree or not!! To me it seems very sad and rather unpatriotic for Britsh persons to continually seek to twist what has been documented and explained by Hudswell about the basis on which the SBA's were set up.
As he said, had the Greek Cypriots chosen to wait a bit for their Independance, it could have been implemented without a guerilla war in which there were many needless deaths.
Examples of an orderly handover of power in former British Colonies are in Malta and more recently in Hong Kong. In both cases there was an absence of bloodshed and relations between these countries and the UK were and have remained very good.
Dee

Not true, in Parliament when asked will Cyprus gain Independence, the minister replied, No there are some country's so strategically important that they will never get Independence,,,cant remember the guys name, but theres google if anyone wants to check it.....as for the being, unpatriotic clap trap..some of us can see beyond whats fed to us
There you go http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1 ... ode=fich20

It is clear from your "clip" that the minister in question made a "Boris" like gaffe and was roundly slapped down...Cyprus would have been granted independence, along with Malta etc....the violence in the 50's had little to do with independence and everything to do with Enosis..unity with Greece, just how indendent was that?

Dominic wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:58 am So when would they have been in a position? In 10 years? In 20 years? In 30 years?

Sometimes, the only correct answer to the question: "when should we get out?" is "You shouldn't have got in."

Dominic wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:31 am WHL, your last two posts would have had a lot more impact without the comments about other posters. Just an observation.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:22 pm Actually WHL I really care less about what you wish to believe. And I am not guessing about Independance for Cyprus, many countries that made up the British Empire had already negotiated their Independance, Malta is a prime example of the path that Cyprus could have followed instead of choosing violence. And my comments in regard to Afghan are based on real life experience, education and training...not Google. It would be comforting to believe that if we just sat back then those that wish our society harm would just do the same....unfortunately that does not happen and I truely hope you are never touched by war, terrorism or violence, luckily for you there are people out there willing to put their lives on the line so you don't have to.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:22 pm Actually WHL I really care less about what you wish to believe. And I am not guessing about Independance for Cyprus, many countries that made up the British Empire had already negotiated their Independance, Malta is a prime example of the path that Cyprus could have followed instead of choosing violence. And my comments in regard to Afghan are based on real life experience, education and training...not Google. It would be comforting to believe that if we just sat back then those that wish our society harm would just do the same....unfortunately that does not happen and I truely hope you are never touched by war, terrorism or violence, luckily for you there are people out there willing to put their lives on the line so you don't have to.

Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:19 pm

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:22 pm Actually WHL I really care less about what you wish to believe. And I am not guessing about Independance for Cyprus, many countries that made up the British Empire had already negotiated their Independance, Malta is a prime example of the path that Cyprus could have followed instead of choosing violence. And my comments in regard to Afghan are based on real life experience, education and training...not Google. It would be comforting to believe that if we just sat back then those that wish our society harm would just do the same....unfortunately that does not happen and I truely hope you are never touched by war, terrorism or violence, luckily for you there are people out there willing to put their lives on the line so you don't have to.

I think you’ll find that truthfully, countries had bad experiences getting independence from Britain. Aden, Egypt and of course Ireland, to name a few.