OhSusana wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:10 am
You must be joking.
The xenophobia on this thread is positively nauseating.
At some point, hopefully in the not too distant future, the chattering classes will eventually get the idea that the continual and completely unsupportable chants of 'racist' and 'xenophobe' have now been used so often, and so inappropriately, as a means of avoiding actual discussion that they are now ineffective to the point of parody, especially as regards to a rejection of the continuing Germanic calls for the unification of Europe under the Euro, or the Neudeutschmark, as it is fast becoming.
Neither the Swiss or the Germans constitute a separate race from the English, and barely a separate ethnicity
Xenophobia, or indeed any 'phobia' represents an unreasonable fear. I'm not contrary to the great German experience because it is guided by the Germans, I am against it because it clearly favours the Germans at the expense of other EU members, and is politically socialist [as is the norm in Europe] as opposed to politically conservative [as used to be the case in the UK, before Bliars version of Eurocommunism became so trendy].
Just as a matter of clarity, when I lived in the UK, there were certain immigrant communities [the Poles for example who have for the last 80 years been such an ornament to British society that it would be difficult to overestimate their positive contribution, the Italian community around Bedfordshire, the North London Cypriots and, perhaps most importantly the Ugandan Asians, to whom I will bow to no-one in my admiration as to the positive model of integration and economic enterprise they represent] for whom I have nothing but the greatest respect, admiration and gratitude for the positive contribution they have made to British life.
It seems this is not an opinion I am allowed to hold however, according to the bien pensants of the new left. I, being a raging xenophobe and racist, am incapable of having a nuanced view with respect to mass immigration, other cultures, and other political systems, and merely have to accept the multicultural, eurosocialist, federalist medicine as it is fed to me, or else be branded as somehow sub-human
I must forget, for example, that Italy is now effectively beyond democratic control and is run by eurocrat fiat, I must dismiss as inconsequential the fact Ireland, Spain, and Portugal are still working on establishing financial independence after receiving ECB 'assistance', or that Greece once in control [however unconventionally] of its own finances has ceded control completely to the German financial machine, and is in so much debt to the EU that it will take a miracle to clear it in the lifetime of any Greek currently alive. Most importantly I must not be so rude as to point out that there is only one EU member state that has consistently shown a balance of payments surplus with respect to the rest of the EU, and certainly not mention which one that is.
Perhaps best not to mention either, the sheer idiocy of the Germans demanding that they be allowed to, and Greece and Italy be mandated to, accept massive numbers of economic migrants, as they are the 'only' answer to funding an aging population, despite the fact that the Greek youth unemployment rate is currently running at 42%.
And of course, to suggest that different European states with different cultures and different mores may benefit from different economic and political systems, well that is tantamount to heresy isn't it? I mean, everybody knows that [everyone get ready to join in the chorus] what is good for Germany is good for Europe, and what's good for Europe is good for the UK.
Well, I don't think so.
But you should absolutely keep branding me [and others] as xenophobes and racists, despite not having one iota of actual evidence or anecdote to support that accusation, against any reasonable definition of the word. I wouldn't want to speak for everyone, you understand, but when someone with an opposing view substitutes insults for argument, or 'taking offence' and 'disgust' for logic and evidence, then it just serves to re-inforce [should that be necessary] my opinion that I might be on the right track, after all