Paphos Life

Pafos wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am

emgee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:32 am Do you have to wear a mask when driving a vehicle? Was out with the dog earlier and 90% were not wearing and 10% were.

Alan

Not in a private car with your own family. This was in the Cyprus Times (Greek text) yesterday.

Just don't drive with your windows down, otherwise you could be classed as outside!

DocDoc wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:35 pm

Pafos wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:03 am

emgee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:32 am Do you have to wear a mask when driving a vehicle? Was out with the dog earlier and 90% were not wearing and 10% were.

Alan

Not in a private car with your own family. This was in the Cyprus Times (Greek text) yesterday.

Just don't drive with your windows down, otherwise you could be classed as outside!

As a passenger, whenever the car is being driven close to people walking along the pavement I do tend to close the window, just in case an ill-timed sneeze is directed my way. Also we put on masks whenever anyone gets close to the vehicle eg petrol attendant. As a person who cannot afford to even get a throat or chest infection I have to be extra careful - unable to tolerate antibiotics.

One thing Cyprus Mail don't come up with is an alternative to deal with the rising COVID rate. Until they do that, they are just spouting hot air.

The wearing of masks in open spaces needs to be stopped NOW by the Cyprus Government. All they are achieving is pissing loads of people off who for the last 8 months having been complying to their rules in an attempt to slow the virus down. I think now they have over stepped their mark and need to realise that they have made a mistake in bringing this rule out and have annoyed a large amount of the population of Cyprus who are now beginning to get fed up with their stupid controlled requests.

News just read tonight that 166 new case of covid 19 today. 4,327 tests carried out but only 950 of those tests were carried out from passengers arriving on the island with 10 positive cases from those tested visitors. So why are we all being told that we must wear masks when they are not testing enough tourists arriving from high infected areas. These arrivals can go about their business spreading the virus when and as they wish but the Government here are clamping down on the locals who have been abiding by the rules for the past 8 months. Every passenger on every arrival in my eyes should be tested. Before the airports were open the daily cases of covid were in the single figures and on some days they were 0 . Greed comes to mind and we who live here are suffering big time now.

Tourists from Category B countries have to be tested before getting on a plane. Tourists aren't the problem.

I agree but the tests that they are paying silly money for are 80-90% false. There is more than meets the eye on this virus. I have spoken to lots of people that have come from all over the UK ( south to North), America, Australia, the Netherlands, Germany and none of them Knows anyone who has contracted this virus. Now if the virus is spreading at a pace that the authorities are saying, then someone must know someone who has been infected with it. In the UK every year over 50,000 people die from road traffic accidents and industrial accidents but does anyone have to wear a mask? NO they do not. Do these figures ever get published? NO they do not. The question is why is it that this virus is getting media exposure???? There are more people in the world that are dying of cancer than there are dying of covid year in year out. This whole situation is about control and fear. If everyone went on their normal ways this will dye out within weeks. But doing what each countries Govenment are doing then it is just suppressing the issue and prolonging the issue causing hardship and anger among the worlds population.

JuraHound

You must have been to college to be so fluent in talking total crap – Do you really imagine that all the nations governments cooked this up and it does not really exist – At the beginning I had my doubts and because I knew of no one who had contracted it, I thought maybe it does not exist and maybe this is some kind of scam but not now - I know of several people who have not only contracted it but have died and yes I think that all of them had a weakness or health issue but most were under 60 years of age – I agree that thousands die from road traffic accidents, cancer and other causes but the key word is VIRUS and at the moment there is no vaccine and virus’s tend to take the weak, elderly and vulnerable and often mutate in order to swerve around anything that might stop it – And your statement that if everyone went on as normal it would die out in a few weeks has got to be the most uncaring disregarding thing I have ever heard – It will not die out it will take the weak – elderly and vulnerable and the strong will survive as is the case with most terrible diseases but it will still be around to take the next weak person who contracts it. No one knows for sure if masks prevent the transmission or contraction of this virus but it cannot do any harm to wear one until we know for certain how it is transmitted – And as for your statement about the whole situation being about Control and Fear I think you need to have a couple of nights off the Play-Station and try a gulp of reality – If you really believe all the governments of the world want to suppress and ruin their economies then you should join the trump camp because he talks total crap also

I've heard lots of sneezes, and the occasional cough, while out and about in Cyprus.

The Swedish model only works if you have a population like the Swedes, who trust their government and do what they are told. The only reason they haven't had a lockdown is because they didn't need one. The government told them to use social distancing etc, and they did what they were told.

Their death rates still don't compare to similar countries like Norway and Denmark though.

I have yet to hear any alternative to the government's course of actions. Am I to assume people want the virus to be allowed to run its course and for the population to develop a herd immunity? If that is the case, can I ask anybody to cite an example of when that last worked as a strategy in combatting a pandemic?

There is more than one type of PCR test. You can have PCR tests for different things, in just the same way that you can have blood tests for different things.

JuraHound wrote: ↑Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:12 pm I agree but the tests that they are paying silly money for are 80-90% false. There is more than meets the eye on this virus. I have spoken to lots of people that have come from all over the UK ( south to North), America, Australia, the Netherlands, Germany and none of them Knows anyone who has contracted this virus. Now if the virus is spreading at a pace that the authorities are saying, then someone must know someone who has been infected with it. In the UK every year over 50,000 people die from road traffic accidents and industrial accidents but does anyone have to wear a mask? NO they do not. Do these figures ever get published? NO they do not. The question is why is it that this virus is getting media exposure???? There are more people in the world that are dying of cancer than there are dying of covid year in year out. This whole situation is about control and fear. If everyone went on their normal ways this will dye out within weeks. But doing what each countries Govenment are doing then it is just suppressing the issue and prolonging the issue causing hardship and anger among the worlds population.

If the subject matter wasn't so serious, your post would of made me chuckle

What do you mean, back it up? There is nothing to back up. You don't know what PCR means. It refers to a methodology, not a specific test. Similarly every time somebody has a blood test, it doesn't mean they are looking for AIDs, or raised cholesterol. It all depends on what they are testing for.

Dominic wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:16 am There is more than one type of PCR test. You can have PCR tests for different things, in just the same way that you can have blood tests for different things.

A company in Nicosia already offers a selection of tests:

https://www.nipd.com/products/respiratory-landing/

JuraHound wrote at 10.12pm Fri 23.10 - In the UK every year over 50,000 people die from road traffic accidents and industrial accidents but does anyone have to wear a mask?

Dont think you are right there.
In 2019 there were 1870 deaths and 27820 serious injuries on the roads in the UK.
Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reported_ ... at_Britain
There were 147 killed at work in 201819 in the UK
Source https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/pdf/fatalinjuries.pdf

NOT the 50,000 you have stated so that rather discredits your post.

Sweden are indeed on the up again.

Austin7 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:05 am This link from WHO confirms that PCR tests pick up 'flu and pneumonia virus as well as Covid19.

The fact that there are PCR tests for influenza as well doesn´t mean a test screening for the coronavirus will be falsely positive if the sample is actually positive for influeza "only".

Must say I've never heard of people being tested for Ordinary flu. If you have flu symptoms, In the UK your doctors surgery will tell you to visit a pharmacy for some basic things, depending on your symptoms, before going home and isolating yourself. You only need hospital treatment if you present pneumonia symptoms... staying warm. Resting and drinking plenty of fluids usually does the trick.

The current decree from the Govt about wearing masks outside wasn't thought out properly. It makes sense to wear a mask if you are in town with crowded streets or in busy public areas, but it seems bananas to expect people who are taking a walk for exercise In the fresh air in a quiet place to wear them. It defeats the object of breathing in the fresh air. Apart from that getting hot and sweaty wearing one in these conditions is very uncomfortable.
Why should walking a dog make one person not need to wear one?

Must make it very hard for the police to decide who to fine and lead to arguments...
Dee

Not really. You just need to follow the spirit, rather than the letter of the law. Cyprus is good at doing that. The UK not so.

On Friday I spoke to two police officers in the police cabin in Chlorakas,they told me that people walking their dog must wear a mask.

I would have thought that was the correct interpretation of the rules ..