Paphos Life

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:42 pm The interesting thing, or the gratifying thing is that we all live, even now, in relative safety, in societies that value its freedoms, are permitted freedom of speech, the right to protest and many other privileges they take as rights. The trouble is that some refuse to take responsibility or accept that those rights come at a price that they are not willing to accept, nor are they willing to give up their freedoms, so what to do? We sit back and we see our citizens terrorised, our societies overwealmed, our culture destroyed. We take action and we are demonised by those who cannot accept that some freedoms must be sacrificed in order to protect the majority, measures which sometimes do indeed the infringe "Human Rights" of others. The measures Trump has introduced are proportionate to the threat, although the implementation could have been handled better, Trump is not a politician, but when you actually analysis the scope of the action it is perhaps not as wide spread as the press would have us believe, Mo Farrow can indeed go back to the states. And statistics are a wonderful thing, and in the last ten years the US has been remarkably untouched, compared to Europe by terrorism, but I would suggest 9/11 is not something anyone would want to experience ever again, and sometimes when you see these protests you perhaps think that memories are short. In a way we in Europe are much more experienced, we have had terrorists in various guises murdering our citizens for years, another atrocity another Facebook page pledging this will never happen again, but when the authorities actually do something, put measures in place there is outrage. The OP mentioned Torture, water boarding, is it effective, I have no idea but again what to do? If a suspect potentially has information that could prevent a terrorist atrocity do you extract that information by interrogation, something most decent people would find abhorant? Or do you accept that respecting his/her human rights will possibly result in the deaths of innocents? Take the moral high ground, tell that to the family of the innocent. Perhaps the measures Directed by Trump are the lessor of two evils.

keving wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:00 pm That 'someone' is The Queen. Off with your head

Trump is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that supports free speech and does not believe that people that appose our point of view should be gagged.

Trump is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that used to support free speech and did not believe that people that oppose our point of view should be gagged.

Hudswell wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:42 pm The measures Trump has introduced are proportionate to the threat, although the implementation could have been handled better, Trump is not a politician, but when you actually analysis the scope of the action it is perhaps not as wide spread as the press would have us believe, Mo Farrow can indeed go back to the states. And statistics are a wonderful thing, and in the last ten years the US has been remarkably untouched, compared to Europe by terrorism, but I would suggest 9/11 is not something anyone would want to experience ever again, and sometimes when you see these protests you perhaps think that memories are short. In a way we in Europe are much more experienced, we have had terrorists in various guises murdering our citizens for years, another atrocity another Facebook page pledging this will never happen again, but when the authorities actually do something, put measures in place there is outrage.

keving wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:13 pmWhat is appose?

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:39 pm

Conoflex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:34 pm but surely if it hadn't been for 9/11 Bush and Blair would never have embarked on the disastrous war in Iraq in the first place ?

It's all about the oil. It's always been about the oil.

geoffreys wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:43 am

Dominic wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:39 pm

Conoflex wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:34 pm but surely if it hadn't been for 9/11 Bush and Blair would never have embarked on the disastrous war in Iraq in the first place ?

It's all about the oil. It's always been about the oil.

In the Middle East it is all about Oil, Water, and Religion.
Geoff.

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:44 pm

keving wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:13 pmWhat is appose?

I wonder if you are the only member here that couldn't work out what my typo was meant to say...?

keving wrote: ↑Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:41 am

cyprusgrump wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:44 pm

keving wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:13 pmWhat is appose?

I wonder if you are the only member here that couldn't work out what my typo was meant to say...?

But it wasn't YOUR typo. It is exactly the spelling used in the petitition.

Firefly wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:14 pm PeteandSylvi

For Heaven's sake lighten up, everyone has a right to an opinion, even if their spelling/grammar isn't GCE A level standard.

There again if it gives others pleasure to point errors out, as I see it, it's time they got out more.

Jackie