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I'm guessing it is a response to Uncle D's post at the bottom of Page 1.
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Yes, it was in answer to Uncle D’s and Varky’s posts. In fact the distance involved between Paphos and Nicosia is a tiring drive if a person isn’t well. It’s also impossible to drive oneself legally as well as practically after certain types of medical treatment.
Thats why the CPSG lays on a free bus to take cancer patients to the Oncology Centre in Nicosia....

People could be more understanding and less flippant in their posts.
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PW in Polemi wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:13 am A friend has pointed out a glitch in the system. Her PD prescribed one packet of 28 tablets for one month. But the pharmacy does not hold packets of 28, only 14 and can only issue one packet under that prescription, so my friend is left having to pay for the second packet.

Presumably, glitches like this will be sorted out so patients can receive the quantity prescribed, under the Gesy system.
We have a prescription in a packet of 14, but are given 2 packs. See your GP!
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Kili01 wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:03 am That’s a very unsympathetic answer! There are lots of single people in Paphos and it can be more difficult to find a friend who’s (willing or has the time) to take you,to your appointment or day case surgery, particularly if it involves staying in a hotel over night in the winter.
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I am well aware of the fantastic service that the CPSG provides but I got the impression that the the person did not want to avail himself of that service and only wanted an excuse to complain about GESY as he has done on another similar thread. All I was saying was that if you look for them there are solutions to most problems, but you have to want to find them.

As an aside, my grand-daughter who is suffering from a serious medical condition has to travel 3 hours (one way) in UK to get therapy.
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Varky give up, you have no idea of the problems.We live on Cyprus not the UK.

I do know of that free bus and a near neighbour who was suffering cancer used this service, but he had to wait around until all those on the bus were treated, then a long slow drive back, unfortunately he has now passed on.

I am sorry about your relative as we have just lost in the UK our young niece to a brain tumour.
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JimX wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:51 am Varky give up, you have no idea of the problems.We live on Cyprus not the UK.

I do know of that free bus and a near neighbour who was suffering cancer used this service, but he had to wait around until all those on the bus were treated, then a long slow drive back, unfortunately he has now passed on.

I am sorry about your relative as we have just lost in the UK our young niece to a brain tumour.
What makes you think that I don't live in Cyprus and am not aware of the problems. The main thing is to find a solution to those problems and not just to complain about them.
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Did I say that?, read it again, I am well aware you live in Cy I had your old addy on my old forum Aardvark? and the ip address, that was not the point of my post. Your another that can only post after ''quoting'' we can read, honest.

If you can find any solution as to me having to pay for my surgery via this new system GHS then please tell me, believe me you would the first to complain, the system at the moment does not work, it is as simple as that.
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JimX wrote: Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:54 am Your another that can only post after ''quoting'' we can read, honest.
People quote other people to avoid ambiguity and confusion. It is as simple as that.
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JimX,
This is a serious question and I am not trying to make a point or anything like that, but what would have been the situation regarding surgery before GESY came into existence? Has the situation deteriorated since then?

Will the situation not improve after 1st June when surgeons are due to come under the GESY umbrella?
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As far as I am aware you can still have 'free' treatment and operations at the state hospitals. But if there is a waiting list then you have to tag onto the end of it..
However using the Gesy system at private hospitals may still entail a wait.. But it is usually just a week or two..
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I think that for those of us using Gesy this is a difficult period. It was published when Gesy first started last June that for the first year, doctors were invited to join as Personal Doctors, some specialist doctors also signed up. Private hospitals joined up if they wanted to. At present visits to one’s personal doctor at his/her premises is free. Specialists can see Gesy Patients at their workplace. Tests and scans may be ordered and carried out. But, operations and inpatient treatment as far as I remember, won’t be covered by Gesy until June 2020. I know someone else who is still waiting for much needed surgery on his hand. But he is also apparently not able to have it done by Gesy. Whether he could get it done at the General, I don’t know. Its very frustrating. Other people who need and can adford private surgery can of course be seen... apparently the cost may be negotiable with the surgeon.
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Same as before, just use the general hospitals for surgery's, cant see how anyone can blame Gesy,
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And, as it has been mentioned many time before, cash is king.. ;-)
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I also concur with WHL. Nothing at all has changed as regards operations and in-patient services. You would continue to use the state hospitals exactly as before using your hospital card. If you didn't have a hospital card before then you would be in the same situation now with having to pay privately. The GESY contribution is staged to take account of this and we are only paying for the services we are currently receiving. The contributions will increase next year to cover the new in-patient services coming on board.

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Now that you have posted about it, I remember that the contributions are going up next year to pay for the inpatient treatment
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trevnhil wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:14 pm Now that you have posted about it, I remember that the contributions are going up next year to pay for the inpatient treatment
If I remember correctly it will rise to less than 4% of your income. I highly doubt that will be enough to provide for a decent level of health care.
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Its seems there are some people, writing Gesy off and not giving it a fair chance after only being operational for a few months, if you think things are terrible here, take a look at this link, and lets get some perspective here.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/p ... SCjkLS-bMY
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I don't think Gesy is terrible, it has a few glitches but that is to be expected with any new system...
With regards to funding, the government are the ones that have done their sums and said 4% will pay for the treatment for patients...
They are certainly getting much more money now for prescribed drugs, compared to the 50 cents per item (not box) people were paying before, for two or even three months supply..
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trevnhil wrote: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:42 am I don't think Gesy is terrible, it has a few glitches but that is to be expected with any new system...
With regards to funding, the government are the ones that have done their sums and said 4% will pay for the treatment for patients...
They are certainly getting much more money now for prescribed drugs, compared to the 50 cents per item (not box) people were paying before, for two or even three months supply..
Trev I agree with your post, but remember the majority of people were not getting meds for 50c, only the OAPs and low income Cypriots, it is now much more fairer, for all the population.
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Having got a really bad chest infection. I went to the Doc. A full exam and prescription given. To see Doc again next Tus to check and see if improvment. The cost of antibiotic to me €1.00 the full price is €10.26. Not bad eh. Before GESY The visit would have cost €25. each time and now it cost me nowt. I reckon the system is excellent.
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