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Cyta have just announced the launch of the new 5G network.

At present it’s only for certified handsets but more will follow.

https://www.cyta.com.cy/5g/en
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5G is by far the most important mobile technology yet. It’s about much more than faster connections. It brings a Quality of Service, support for smart cars, roads, house, health and much more.
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Jimgward wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:30 am 5G is by far the most important mobile technology yet. It’s about much more than faster connections. It brings a Quality of Service, support for smart cars, roads, house, health and much more.
What do you mean by support for roads, house and health?
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Would it not be a better idea if CYTA concentrated on getting the existing network working up to scratch rather than trying to introduce new systems? Although I am charged for a 40 MB connection, it is very rare that I can get better than 29.5 MB. More often than not, we are around the 28 MB area. They have offered me a 20 MB connection to reduce my costs but I know then that not even will I get 28 MB.

Their excuse: we are at the end of the line therefore the speed goes down. It must be the same for all my neighbours who must be in the same boat.
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Dominic wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:10 pm
Jimgward wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:30 am 5G is by far the most important mobile technology yet. It’s about much more than faster connections. It brings a Quality of Service, support for smart cars, roads, house, health and much more.
What do you mean by support for roads, house and health?
Smart Motorways in the UK will use 5G connectivity to assess conditions, traffic and much more - eventually this will move to all roads
~Smart cars, self-driving etc. Will need 5G
SmartHealth and SmartHomes will use 5G to provide enhanced services...
Even in ~Dubai, they are trialling self-flying taxis, like large drones...

Advancing societies
5G opens cutting-edge ways of improving safety and sustainability.

Smarter electricity grids for greatly reduced carbon emissions
More connected vehicles sharing data to prevent road collisions
Faster deployment of emergency services to accidents
Connected sensors that can detect and warn of natural disasters early
Drones becoming a key tool to accelerate and support emergency situation response
Remote expertise with specialists smoothly consulting/diagnosing patients elsewhere
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This will of course be something else for the General Public to kick off about once they know the extent of the consequences - One of them being 5G uses much higher frequency radio waves which are only effective over short distances meaning that the cell net area has to be smaller ( more condensed ) which means a lot more masts closer together - Original thoughts were to have a train of smaller aerials fixed to buildings on major roads through towns similar to the old Rabbit telephone system But I think that idea has died. And what about the radiation theories ? I once had to do a course in Connecticut on the effect of microwaves when I worked for a company called Wraytech Instruments which was a real eye opener and after the course the professor who gave the instruction said off the record that most governments were happy to go along and tolerate the smoking cigarettes cause's cancer theory which they obviously do because it takes the heat off other things that would really cause them a problem - Like for instance the old cathode ray tv set where everyone comes in for the evening and crowds around the tv set for a couple of hours - He claimed in his opinion this was the biggest cause of cancer throughout the late 60's and 70's caused by a massive magnetic field in your living room and due to this ionising magnetic field which surrounded people in their living room it was doing untold damage to their bodies - Ionizing magnetic fields are high-level radiation which have been proved to cause cellular and DNA damage with prolonged exposure - People have claimed for years that they have become ill around mobile phone masts - Is 5G another big mistake for peoples health ? I don't know and I have no opinion one way or another merely asking the question to those who may be more informed .
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3G, 4G and5G antennas dissipate power on a exponential curve (Hickey stick) - so, for example, when you are 1m from an antenna, the power of the radio wave might be 200w - go 10m away and it’s almost insignificant.

Radio eaves exist in nature, as well as everything from power lines, household cables etc. There is much more risk for you, from holding a phone to your ear, than there is from being anywhere near a cell site.

The GSMA is the body representing the mobile industry - this is a paper on it;

https://www.gsma.com/publicpolicy/wp-co ... ack-21.pdf

I used to run a Wireless Installation Company. We did Microwave and Radio systems, such as for Councils, to provide connectivity between site, also WI-FI rural networks. Our engineers wore special badges that showed any exposure to radiated energy.

When on mast sites or any site where a 3G/4G antenna was placed, they could not go in front of the antenna or within 1m of the back, unless it was switched off.

We installed some Microwave antennas, to provide connectivity to Islands on the West Coast of Scotland. The dishes were in some cases, over 2m in diameter for distances of over 30 miles. We had to provide H&S as well as radio safety and radiation data. I used to have all the stuff from the Universities etc. I even had to attend school meetings, to tell parents about the placement of antennas on school roofs, as well as WI-FI networks in the schools. All covered by scientific facts.
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Yeah but you can prove anything with facts.
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Dominic wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:42 am Yeah but you can prove anything with facts.
That is only too true, Dominic. And this is certainly the case here and especially the claptrap on this theme, both within and without this particular set of statements, most of which hardly bear any truth.

I studied radio engineering in my teens, initially as an amateur and later as a professional and obtained a higher fifth year degree from London. After graduation, I worked for several years with one of the largest telecommunication companies in the UK. In terms of frequencies, this company dealt with virtually everything from 1 kHz to 2000 MHz all without screening of the personnel working with powers up to about 50 kW. As far as I was able to ascertain their was no radio-frequency related illness in the thousand-odd personnel, some of whom were the pioneers of high-power, high-frequency radar, from 1938 onwards.

I am therefore categorical that non-ionising radiation from low frequencies right through to UHF are unlikely to cause any short-term or long-term problems with the human body, on condition that the radiation levels will not cause sensible feeling in any part of the body, e.g., heating.

There are probably hundreds of thousands of radio transmitters operating daily throughout the world, mostly with no or little protection of operators or the nearby general public from radiation. My question is where are all the dead bodies that the radiation fields should have produced?

I will make a distinction between ionising and non-ionising fields. It is possible that there is ionisation in the close proximity to a powerful transmitter antenna, but the radiation from it is rarely more than a few centimetres. Beyond those few centimetres and everywhere else, the fields we are subjected to are non-ionising and are harmless.

I therefore state categorically that radio-frequency radiation, no matter how many numerals you put before G, is harmless to the human body and to animals.
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Since writing the above diatribe, I came across this simply understood diagram showing what I meant between ionising and nonionising radiation. It clearly shows that the 4G and 5G frequencies are nonionising and their radiation is harmless (subject to provisos in my previous post.)
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Jimgward and HIC

As always you are in there arguing about anything I see you are also working side by side in the latest Brexit issue – Have you ever thought of forming a partnership like Batman and Robin or even Laurel and Hardy ?
Anyway I was trying to find something on the internet with regard to the post in question regarding to the effect of magnetic fields on blood flow which apparently now has been proved to have some advantages ----

https://physicsworld.com/a/magnetic-fie ... viscosity/

What I was trying to find was one of the things my lecturer said in relation to this which was that magnetic fields are very good at channelling protons and electrons into chain like streams and this technology has been used in recent years to improve fuel consumption on cars (which is well catalogued on the internet) by coiling a wire around fuel lines to create a magnetic field which greatly improves fuel consumption – But he was referring to the red cells and white cells in blood also travelling around the body in linked chains and when exposed to ionising radiation which was the research he had been involved with and was ongoing in 2009 and he basically said that this prevented the bodies immune system from attacking virus intruders because every thing was going with the flow in the same direction in chain like routes and it was widely believed that this caused leukaemia and research I believe is still going on into this.

I am in no way disputing Devils categorical statement as my own information on the subject is 12 years out of date and as I previously said I have no opinion one way or another as I am not a physicist however Devils information is seriously more out of date than mine and technology and new data is moving faster than the speed of light these days - Beside’s that I never trusted a Weatherman since Michael Fish got it wrong .
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HIC

You still don’t get it do you ? I don’t think anyone on here would be able to prove you wrong – But the bit you keep missing is that it is what the people wanted – The people in the UK – NOT THE PEOPLE IN CYPRUS – Its been done and its now time to get on with the outcome and fallout whatever it may be instead of constantly whingeing on like old women – With this “I told you so attitude”

And you don’t hate being pedantic, It’s what your best at – You’ve practised it for years and your last statement is exactly what I am on about you will pick up and twist anything to try and make an argument out of it.
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Happy in Cyprus wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:56 pm Just glad that I'm still living in an EU country ;)
Yet the majority of your posts are complaining about the UK, the place you left years ago because you didn’t like it?!
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You got it in one I was beginning to think I was the only one who noticed. And yes HIC I am as happy as I ever was – If there is change and things cost a bit more and maybe a bit of paperwork has to be done then so what – Its called change and its happened all through History – But some will just complain and complain until they make themselves ill with complaining – I deal with a lot of people all day and everyday And most people are just getting on with it and it is not even a topic of conversation any more, Until I come on here and then its the same gang day after day pining on that they told you what would happen – But who really cares nothing major that effects peoples lives has changed – The people who had nothing still have nothing and the people who have it all will complain.
And if your so happy that your still living in an EU Country why are you constantly banging on about Brexit ad its effects on the UK ? - None of your actions make any sense at all – You are just a Serial Moaner – Who always has to have the last word and Who always has to be right even when your wrong
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These are all teething troubles and changes, Some of which will be sorted in time others may not be sorted at all – this may not be to everyone’s satisfaction but that’s democracy winners and losers and its been around for years - I don’t know where you get self centred view statement from – I have no interest one way or the other because I can’t do anything about it and what will be will be Which is why I don’t understand your obsession with this you live miles from the Uk and say you are happy to still be in an Eu country yet you go on constantly about Brexit like someone has pinched your sweets – All the damage you have listed in your last post is of no concern to you it is the result of a peoples vote in the UK why can’t you accept that and just let it go – So you have to pay a little bit more for your parcels and maybe wait a bit longer to get them – Well if it upsets you that much then move back to the UK because it seriously sounds like you really miss the place or why do you constantly ask people to name one good thing that came out of Brexit – It does not concern you other than your parcels because you don’t live there.
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Happy in Cyprus wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:51 pm
71 Trans Am wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:19 pmBut who really cares nothing major that effects peoples lives has changed
As I repeatedly ask of Brexit proponents, please name one good thing which will come from Brexit, which makes all the above worthwhile.
A faster roll-out of the Coronavirus vaccine unhindered by the bureaucratic politics of EU. Which may have saved lives.
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HIC,
I answered your question. You only asked for one example I gave it and you have acknowledged the fact. End of.
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