Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

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Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by Paphos Life » Tue Jun 11, 2019 10:35 pm

Mortality on urban roads in Cyprus is close to three times the EU average with around 60 deaths per million inhabitants, the fourth worst record in the bloc, with progress on reducing fatalities having stagnated, a damning report published on Tuesday revealed....

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by smudger » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:18 pm

Absolutely dreadful. Cyprus should hang its head in shame. I fear that won't happen though.

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by JimX » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:45 am

It is the Cypriot attitude towards driving, no signals, it is OK to use a phone while driving and they must be first at all costs, in my time here before roundabouts nothing has changed for the better, I doubt now I will ever see a change to driving standards, we all make mistakes, but every time you drive out on Cypriot roads you wonder if you will return safely, theses are my feelings and experiences only, I am not looking for any arguments.
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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by Kili01 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:10 am

Agree with Jim’s comments. Lack of signals and jumping traffic lights on red, pulling out or diving into lanes without warning, must contribute to this... And of course driving around with mobile clamped to ear....

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by daveg » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:52 am

Meanwhile the Police are mainly to be seen on the Motorway...the safest road, according to the report .

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by trevnhil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:59 am

I have seen speed traps on the Motorway, but I have also seen them in various places around the Paphos area, as well
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Post by Anarita John » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:42 am

Whose going to try to kill us today? Yesterday it was a coach driver. I indicated to turn right into the EKO garage at Mandria. I was making my manoeuvre just after the turn into Mandria village and a coach, who was driving on my tail, pulled out and overtook, forcing me almost onto the grass verge. He overtook where the road markings are for filter lanes, with traffic coming the other way. Must be the same driver who did not stop when coming out of the coach depot on the industrial estate road between Anarita and Ayia Varvara.

Then there was the police motorcyclist on a big powerful bike who overtook me on the inside as I was making a right turn. I was cm from knocking him off his bike.No siren or lights as a warning and you rarely look in your left hand mirror as you are executing a right turn at traffic lights as you are more concerned with traffic on the opposite side coming through on red.

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Post by tonee » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:22 pm

Just had a close one on the hospital roundabout.Coming from the motorway direction,got in right hand lane indicating right at the roundabout to go up to Anavargos,then indicated left for the exit.Good job I checked my offside mirror,a guy in a car was on my inside.
The thing is....the guy was going crazy at me!Close call.

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by Kili01 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:11 pm

Some people still don’t seem to understand lane discipline on the roundabouts..
I reckon that its a free for all with virtually no one indicating, so I wait for a safe gap in the traffic and try to keep an eye on what the drivers around me are doing. I always use my indicators too what ever others are dong, hoping that they will notice which direction I am taking....

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by smudger » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:29 pm

I'm with you Dee, I find discipline on and around roundabouts appalling. Why, why, why don't they teach this in driving lessons?? Or do they, and then it's abandoned??

I'm convinced that the newish 'basket' roundabout has a huge problem in that drivers coming up from Paphos assume they have the right of way. I've had one very scary incident when coming off the roundabout to go up to Tremithousa/Mesoghi and a driver coming up the main road just carried on round the roundabout! Smoking brakes on both sides were an understatement!

All down to learner driving training!! Inadequate in the extreme!!
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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by trevnhil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:16 pm

You have to use the Boy Scout Motto... Be Prepared... for anything
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Post by Anarita John » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:44 pm

We drive so defensively here and, as Trev said, be prepared for anything. A new trait seems to be cars coming around the front of you as you are waiting to turn left at a T junction.

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by smudger » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:52 pm

Always am Trev. It's the main thing the advanced driver training taught me. I'm always very aware of what's going around, behind and in front of me. They teach a spoken dialogue of what's happening around and in front, and although I found it difficult at the time, I find myself still doing it to myself now. Makes me very aware of what's going on. Constantly find myself thanking that training.

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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by trevnhil » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:20 pm

I have been through the same course here in Cyprus..
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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by JimX » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:42 am

No matter how careful you are driving do not expect them to understand proper driving procedures, why? well they are never trained to do so, good luck out there, you will need it.
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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by PW in Polemi » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:54 am

trevnhil wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:59 am
I have seen speed traps on the Motorway, but I have also seen them in various places around the Paphos area, as well
There are often police speed traps on the road between Polemi village, past the Sodap winery, to the fuel station at the junction with the Paphos-Polis road.
I am now one of those irritating drivers who stick to the limit of 50kph even though it is a lovely mostly straight stretch of road. In the past, I have done 70 along there and been overtaken ...
However, since being stopped by police on my way from Letymbou to Tsada, and issued a verbal warning, I have been careful with my speed - my cruise control gets a lot of use!

I have found, that by reducing my speed, I am much more aware of everything going on around me. And of course, I have more time to react if some other driver does something silly.

Inattention (on mobile usually) kills, but so does speed. I noticed a section of crash barrier was being replaced yesterday on my drive down to Paphos. It had been very badly bent - on a straight stretch of road....

Despite the report showing driving in Cyprus is, well, basically pretty poor, I have noticed an improvement in attitude over the years I have lived here. When we first started visiting, it was rare to be thanked for letting somebody join the main flow of traffic - yes, even Brits only managed the occasional wave in thanks. Last week I was thanked with a wave, a smile and/or a nod of the head on each of the three occasions I let somebody exit from a sidestreet. 🙂
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Re: Death on Cyprus - urban roads three times higher than EU average

Post by emgee » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:07 am

As I understand it, Cypriots don't wave as a method of thanks because the shape of the hand represents death.

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