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Re: FIRE?

Post by memory man » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:38 am

Jim B wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:32 am
many fires are caused by thrown away cigarettes from vehicles.

Jim

....and also disposable BBQ's and from glass bottles which can concentrate the suns rays onto dry grass and shrubbery.
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Re: FIRE?

Post by PW in Polemi » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:41 am

Dominic wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:35 pm
Nothing to do with hunting. We were out all day today and saw lots of fires, but no hunters. Heard one gunshot in the distance.

Plus there were fires on monday and tuesday.,
Quite a few hunters out and about in my area of Polemi.
And a fire in my valley that needed assistance from two helicopters before it was brought under control.
On a steep scrub-covered hillside so not started by a farmer burning his cuttings at the edge of his field - and yes, it happens.

A few years back, there was a little smoke at the edge of one field in the valley where I live, and nobody near it. When my late husband reported it, as it was June the seasonal firefighters had not yet been called in - this has subsequently been changed, they start earlier in the summer, do a lot of driving around looking for tell-tale wisps of smoke, and now are continuing long after summer is officially over.

Unfortunately, there was a major fire elsewhere, so a little delay in sending anyone up from Paphos to check. In the meantime, the wind picked up and the fire ran up the valley, burning large round hay bales, fruit trees and vines en route, over the top of the hill and towards the tulip field. Then the wind changed direction and the fire raced back down the hill, engulfing the few bales it had missed on the first pass, across the bottom and up the far side.

That fire took 3 helicopters, two planes dropping fire retardant, two large all terrain fire trucks, several smaller ones, numerous twin cabs, Civil Defence vehicles and a lot of man power to put out.

Villagers lost their crops, holidaymakers had to be evacuated.
All for one farmer leaving his cuttings smoldering ...

Yesterday's fire in my valley started in scrub beside a road so may have been caused by a carelessly discarded ciggie, or a bottle refracting the sunlight. On the other hand, members of the fire service have been heard saying that hunters set light to scrub to minimize the habitat available to their prey ...
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Cactuslil » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:42 am

Helicopters were out again at first light.

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Re: FIRE?

Post by PW in Polemi » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:44 am

memory man wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:38 am
Jim B wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:32 am
many fires are caused by thrown away cigarettes from vehicles.

Jim

....and also disposable BBQ's and from glass bottles which can concentrate the suns rays onto dry grass and shrubbery.
Not just glass. I understand the sun's rays can be refracted through plastic bottles too....
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Jim B » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:47 am

memory man wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:38 am
Jim B wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:32 am
many fires are caused by thrown away cigarettes from vehicles.

Jim

....and also disposable BBQ's and from glass bottles which can concentrate the suns rays onto dry grass and shrubbery.
MM
Very true, we had a massive fire on a Sulphur Pad at an oil refinery in Kazakhstan which was caused by Operaters leaving a half empty plastic water bottle on top of the pad.

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Re: FIRE?

Post by WHL » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:51 am

Nothing to do with Hunters, that is just put out there by anti Hunting posters, someone has been arrested for arson, it would be alot better if people waited to hear some facts before going into '' I heard it down the Pub ''mode, especially where crimes or businesses closing down are concerned.

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Re: FIRE?

Post by The Aquila » Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:29 am

Sadie wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:06 pm
Hunters purposefully set fire to no hunting zones to scare out wildlife to areas their allowed to shoot 😡
Your proof please ?

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Re: FIRE?

Post by Sadie » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:03 pm

The Aquila wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:29 am
Sadie wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:06 pm
Hunters purposefully set fire to no hunting zones to scare out wildlife to areas they’re allowed to shoot 😡
Your proof please ?
Years of experience of living in a rural village...
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Sadie » Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:06 pm

Yesterday's fire in my valley started in scrub beside a road so may have been caused by a carelessly discarded ciggie, or a bottle refracting the sunlight. On the other hand, members of the fire service have been heard saying that hunters set light to scrub to minimize the habitat available to their prey ...
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Sad but true 😢
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Re: FIRE?

Post by WHL » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:36 am

Sadie wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:03 pm
The Aquila wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 9:29 am
Sadie wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:06 pm
Hunters purposefully set fire to no hunting zones to scare out wildlife to areas they’re allowed to shoot 😡
Your proof please ?
Years of experience of living in a rural village...
So just Village gossip :roll:

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Re: FIRE?

Post by Dominic » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:44 am

These are some of the rumours I've heard:

1. Hunters via discarded cigarettes etc
2. Hunters to get animals out of hiding places
3. Big business wanting to build on the land
4. Land owners wanting to sell the land
5. Firemen wanting overtime.
6. Random arsonists
7. Caused by sun reflecting off rubbish etc
8. Farmers burning stubble.
9. Farmers clearing land for new use.


Take your pick. But bear in mind:

1. Fires didn't just occur on hunting days.
2. Theres a fair amount of rubbish out there.
3. Firemen risk their lives to put these fires out.
4. Farmers get the EU subsidy cut if there is a fire on their land
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Termites Dream » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:56 am

One of the reasons given for fires is that farmers use fire to clear land. I have a Cypriot friend who states that overall fires are down this year. The reason, he says, is that if a fire starts on farmland, then the farmer loses 20% of his EU subsidy on all the land he owns. If he has a second fire he loses another 20% etc. He did not say if he has to be proven guilty of starting the blaze.

This he states is the reason for the reduction.....not that you would notice recently!!

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Re: FIRE?

Post by Dominic » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:37 am

I had forgotten about the farmer reasons. I have added them to the list. Thanks
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Kili01 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 pm

Whatever the cause, at the end of the day everyone should be aware of the fire risk at present and should act in a responsible way when out in the countryside. So why is it that some people are just downright careless? Anyone who lives here should be aware of the extreme fire risk at the end of a long, scorching summer.
Maybe the downpour earlier this morning may have helped temporarily, but things will dry out again unless there is continual rain here for a few days and the temperature drops significantly.
I hope that anyone found guilty of starting fires is taken to court and is forced to pay for his/her misdeed.
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Re: FIRE?

Post by Kili01 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:12 pm

I also hope that all like minded people will have signed the petition to protect the Akamas which Dominic posted on another thread.

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