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A group of organisations has asked the attorney-general to suspend the prosecution of a 19-year-old British woman charged with public nuisance after she claimed she had been raped by 12 Israeli tourists in July in Ayia Napa....

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Why the heck should she be freed after (maliciously ) accusing people of raping her??
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Would they be calling for her to be freed if she was, from Asia or from a third world country, just let justice take its course,
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Austin7 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:22 am
WHL wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:12 am Would they be calling for her to be freed if she was, from Asia or from a third world country, just let justice take its course,
trevnhil wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:07 am Why the heck should she be freed after (maliciously ) accusing people of raping her??
I agree that this case should continue to it's final outcome, to stop it now would leave a stain on the girl's character forever. When the result of this case is known I think it will prove beyond any doubt that she was raped by a number of Israeli boys who were 'let off the hook' by the police and allowed to return home even though it transpired that their mobile phone footage had as good as proven them guilty. It will also prove the inefficiency of the police who carried out unrecorded interviews with the girl and applied pressure on her to change her story after many hours of interviews.

When I first heard about this incident I posted, at the time, that this sort of thing probably wouldn't happen if girls and young women (and males of course) were not so promiscuous in their behaviour and I still think that. However, this girl's initial claim of rape must be proven and to stop the case now would not achieve that.
Sorry you know as much or as little as the rest of us, unless you were there, then you are just making assumptions, by what you say, you have already decided she is innocent, while calling for the trail to follow its cause, you cant have both.
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Austin7 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:14 am
WHL wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:36 am Sorry you know as much or as little as the rest of us, unless you were there, then you are just making assumptions, by what you say, you have already decided she is innocent, while calling for the trail to follow its cause, you cant have both.
I have followed this case in detail from both Cypriot and UK newspaper articles and tv reports and I'm sure my conclusion is the same as any other right minded person. I admit to initially holding the view that she is probably guilty as charged but with all the evidence produced in the meantime I have most certainly changed my mind and those accused of rape should be back in Cyprus being tried for their alleged crimes.
Sorry reading what the Sun or Mail or any other media write dosnt give you any inside info whats so ever, as I said you know as much of what actually happened in that Hotel room, as any one else, you have clearly made your mind up that she is innocent, maybe she is mayby she isnt I will wait for the trail to conclude before deciding, remember she is being represented by fair trails abroad or what ever the organisation is called,and they will be going through the evidence with a fine tooth comb.
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WHL wrote, Sorry reading what the Sun or Mail or any other media write dosnt give you any inside info whats so ever, as I said you know as much of what actually happened in that Hotel room, as any one else, you have clearly made your mind up that she is innocent, maybe she is mayby she isnt I will wait for the trail to conclude before deciding, remember she is being represented by fair trails abroad or what ever the organisation is called,and they will be going through the evidence with a fine tooth comb.

But who is presenting the evidence?
Would you trust the authorities to present ALL the evidence in a fair and open way?
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boycott wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:34 am WHL wrote, Sorry reading what the Sun or Mail or any other media write dosnt give you any inside info whats so ever, as I said you know as much of what actually happened in that Hotel room, as any one else, you have clearly made your mind up that she is innocent, maybe she is mayby she isnt I will wait for the trail to conclude before deciding, remember she is being represented by fair trails abroad or what ever the organisation is called,and they will be going through the evidence with a fine tooth comb.

But who is presenting the evidence?
Would you trust the authorities to present ALL the evidence in a fair and open way?
In the case we are discussing one hundred %, The Cypriot authorities have the Worlds spot light on it, they dare not get this wrong, and have to do everything by the book.
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Austin7 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:05 pm
WHL wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:59 am In the case we are discussing one hundred %, The Cypriot authorities have the Worlds spot light on it, they dare not get this wrong, and have to do everything by the book.
That's why there is pressure to drop the case, so the truth will not be made public!
Just wait until the end of the case, further speculations are just a waste of time in my opinion
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I would respectfully point out that she is inoccent until proven guilty.
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How can there be a fair trial unless those youths who were alleged to have raped her can be extradited to appear at the trial?

I think that she must be regarded as innocent unless or until proved otherwise.If indeed she was gang raped, surely she should have had a medical examination as soon as possible afterwards? If she did, I haven’t seen that mentioned and surely the results of that would be important evidence which would probably have shown fairly conclusively if rape had taken place.
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I don't think the prosecution case should be suspended at all - the main thing is she is now no longer being held in custody, which in view of other information coming to light the other week, is the best that could have happened.

But suspending the case completely means there will be no outcome at all and for obvious reasons, the parties on both sides need an outcome!
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Read this today about a rape case at a UK court, an interesting read about rape case(s) in court. Also written by a woman.

Sitting with 11 strangers in the jury box of an English crown court, the story of a girl's rape by a young man she hardly knew in the bedroom of her home one Friday night rang true. At least at first.
The girl, let's call her Cherie, goes to a party, and by chance meets an old school friend who has always had a fancy for her.
They dance all evening and he buys her five glasses of vodka and Coke until she gets tipsy and nearly slips to the floor.At the end of the evening, he offers her a taxi ride home to the flat she shares with her brother in suburban London. There, Cherie, befuddled with drink, and her new-found friend go to her bedroom where they have sex against her will.In the early hours of the morning, she emerges to make a coffee in the kitchen, where her brother confronts her about the man in her bedroom.
She says it was all a mistake: she didn't invite him there, and he forced himself on her without consent.That was the tale related in court by the police and a team of Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) barristers as we, the jury, listened intently.
We were being asked to decide if the young man standing in the dock with a court officer at his side was guilty of rape. His future hung on our verdict.
I thought back to that moment this week when I read that Left-leaning women's groups and lawyers are now calling for the scrapping of juries in rape trials, replacing them with a lone judge and a committee of two.
They argue that there are too few convictions and that jurors bring 'their own prejudices and views in too much', often favouring men.
Certainly, the rates of rape convictions in this country make for shocking reading.
In the past five years, the number of women reporting a rape to the police has tripled. Yet, over the same time, there has been a collapse by half, to the lowest level on record, in alleged perpetrators being charged.
The conviction rate of those who do reach trial is dismal, too. There were roughly three convictions for every 100 rape cases recorded by the police in England and Wales last year — the lowest rate in more than a decade.
As for the police, their units specialising in rape and sexual assault are increasingly diminished. This has led to appalling misunderstandings between officers and rape victims.
In some tragic instances, women who have reported rape have claimed that police stopped investigating their case after they refused to reveal up to seven years of their mobile phone data.Many say that having to offer up their phone messages makes them feel 'violated once again.'
But when it comes to assessing what is usually an immensely emotive and psychologically complex crime, can a single judge — with a small committee — confined to a narrow view of the world — really reach a more insightful conclusion than the collective experience provided by a jury of everyday citizens?
Perhaps my time as a juror can shed some light on why that isn't always the case.
Just like so many cases of alleged rape, the one placed in front of me and my fellow jurors seemed straightforward at first.
Because of confidentiality laws involving a jury's deliberations, I cannot tell you the private discussions of my fellow jury men and women. But I can give you some context.
They were from a mix of ages, backgrounds and ethnicities. The majority had good jobs, while a couple of them were unemployed or had retired.
The police, seemingly under intense pressure to get a conviction as the number of rape prosecutions fall, appeared to have exaggerated the amount Cherie had drunk that night to try to prove that she had been incapable of consent.After Cherie told her brother she had been raped, he called an ambulance which took her to hospital. Rape specialists were called in. Her blood-alcohol levels were tested and she was physically examined.
The investigation was well under way and, as it turned out, she couldn't halt it.
The first sign to us on the jury that something was amiss came when the prosecuting barrister gave his opening speech.
It concentrated on the five glasses of vodka and Coke that Cherie had been bought and how, apparently, she nearly fell over at the party. To back up the story, a picture of Cherie was passed to the jury. The CPS claimed it showed her in a state of near collapse.
Yet, to us on the jury, it looked as though Cherie was break-dancing — an athletic manoeuvre where the dancer swings their body near the floor.
We passed a note to the judge, raising this question. And we asked for the CPS barrister to read out the interview given to police by Cherie about how many glasses of alcohol she had drunk that night.
Just for good measure, we asked for the recording of her words to be played in open court, too.t, too. Thank goodness the judge acquiesced. When the transcript was read and the tape played, it had Cherie saying she had consumed only two drinks, not five.
Far from being drunk and unable to consent to sexual intercourse, she'd been virtually sober at the time she slept with the young man in her bedroom.
During the trial, the paramedics who picked up Cherie in the ambulance, also confirmed that their blood-tests showed a level of alcohol so low that she could easily have danced the night away without falling over.
This was serious. Here was a girl caught in the headlights. Embarrassed at being found with a man in her bedroom, she had implied that he was there without her permission.
Under pressure, perhaps due to family disapproval, she had been caught in the relentless process which can propel a woman to allege rape and end up in a courtroom.
It is easy to see how it may have been hard to recant: to tell her brother she had agreed to sex. Or to admit to police, the medics, the rape specialists, that she had been a willing partner.
As one lawyer who watched the case unfold told me afterwards: 'Without the jury's probing questions to the judge, and a judge who accepted they should be answered, the truth might never have emerged.'
Against this backdrop, one can see how rape cases can easily become muddled by conflicting testimonies. If, for example, a woman claims she has been date-raped but her alleged attacker vehemently denies it, whom are we to believe?
These cases are rarely clear-cut, and it's even possible to feel a tinge of sympathy for both parties.
Indeed, in my case, one can almost forgive Cherie. A girl of not yet 20, she was in a hideous position, albeit of her own making with that first lie to her brother.
What was unacceptable in this trial was the over-egging of police evidence about her drinking to try to prove she had been incapable of consenting to sex and get a conviction. An innocent man's freedom and reputation for the rest of his life was at isk.
Our jury unanimously delivered our verdict that the young man was not guilty, and we collectively breathed a sigh of relief. Job done.
Two of the police officers handling the case sat with their heads in their hands. The accused gave a grateful smile to the jury (for which he was ticked off by the court officer beside him).
He then walked into the fresh air outside, where his family gathered to pat him on the back.
Yes, justice had been done — and had been seen to be done in an open court room.
But, walking out of that court after the final day, I doubt whether any of my fellow jurors were under the impression that the duty they had carried out had been straightforward.
After so many twists and turns in the trial, any one of us could be forgiven for thinking we would never reach a conclusion.
And yet we did. Just like so many juries before us.
So my message to those campaigners who wish to abolish our ancient jury system is this: focus on improving police work in this delicate area instead of throwing out a tried-and-tested procedure that I know saved one young man's life from ruin. From - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... saver.html
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Les Bean wrote: Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:47 pm There's no jury system in Cyprus
You're exactly right!

But sadly, the "jury" is all over social media and particularly a rather large amount of males with Cypriot and Israeli names who appear to think she "asked for it" and knew exactly what she was doing.

I think this is going to be a very difficult one to sort out - unless there's other information which hasn't been released. I haven't seen the video and wouldn't want to watch it in any event but it sounds like plenty of people have....
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Ayia Napa rape accuser back in court

British 19-year-old woman back in court as prosecution calls next witness in Ayia Napa rape case.

The Ayia Napa rape accuser was expected back in court on Tuesday where she is facing charges of public mischief, with her defence taking issue with how the complaint was investigated and how their client was treated by police.

A 19-year-old British woman is being accused of making false statements to police in a gang complaint she had filed against Israeli teens back in July in Ayia Napa. A total of twelve suspects were detained and subsequently released after police said they found nothing incriminating against them, while arresting the rape accuser who was said to have retracted her story.

But the rape accuser claims she was coerced by a different investigator to retract her claims of rape, something which has been refuted by Cypriot police. Officers said phone evidence including videos of sexual intercourse played a role in releasing all male suspects, after some of the teens showed videos to investigators saying sex with the woman had been consensual.

Previously, the defence told the court that police failed to examine deleted videos, which could possibly show sexual behaviour that was not consensual. The defence lawyer also pointed out that videos and images that were shared through social networking sites, such as What’s Up, Facebook, and Viber, were later removed, while calling for forensic tests to restore the content associated with the rape accusations.

According to the defence, the Israeli teens were talking about the woman in a demeaning and ugly way, while some of the suspects were bragging about the fact they were either going to have sex with her later or take part in sexual orgies.

A 36-page forensic report was submitted as evidence by the prosecution in early October in a Paralimni courtroom, prompting the judge to allow for two weeks so that the defence could prepare.

The British teen filed a complaint on July 17 telling cops she was raped by Israeli teens in a hotel room in Ayia Napa. Police never disclosed what was alleged in the initial complaint but media reports said the girl said she was being held down, sexually assaulted and raped, while others laughing and filming the act without her consent.

All twelve suspects were released and flew back to Israel, with reports saying they denied rape allegations from the beginning. At least three of the suspects admitted having sexual intercourse with the female accuser while others said they either did not do anything wrong or were not even in the room during the alleged incident.

The defence also claims their client was wrongly treated as a suspect during statements she made to a different police investigator on July 27, alleging that her constitutional rights had been violated.

A police officer who previously testified for the prosecution said the third statement on July 27 was sought by police in order to clarify the number of suspects who had sexual contact with the woman, whether she had been working in Cyprus, as well as how long did the alleged rape last.

Narrow focus of trial, other issues left out

In the previous hearing, the judge had cautioned the defence, saying the purpose of the trial was not to examine the plaintiff’s counter-complaint against the police but only to focus on whether she was guilty of public mischief for making false statements to a police officer.

Knews understands that the woman had come to Cyprus on a low budget and might have been expected to work her way through the vacation. Some critics have condemned the practice known as “introduction holidays” saying young people looking for work in party hotspots often end up being vulnerable and stranded away from home, alone and jobless in “high risk” hotels.

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Trial within trial begins for British teen accused of falsely claiming gang rape

A trial within a trial began on Tuesday to determine whether investigators exercised psychological pressure to extract a confession from a British teenager accused of falsely claiming she was gang raped by 12 Israeli tourists in Cyprus in July.

The 19-year-old, who last month pleaded not guilty to the charge of “public mischief,” is standing trial at the district court in Paralimni. If convicted she could face up to one year in prison and a fine of around 1,700 euros.

Her testimony on Tuesday lasted for 45 minutes during which she insisted her retraction was extracted under duress.

Referring to police investigator Marios Christou telling her that the video taped on the eve of the alleged rape was showing her having consensual sex, she told the court: “That could not be true”.

She also alleged she had told investigators her mother is a lawyer and that she had asked more than once to have a lawyer but police denied her that right.

For his part, Sergeant Christou told the court that on the night of the teenager’s arrest he had been suspicious that the defendant was lying.

He also said that, along with his team, their investigation was handled with the “utmost seriousness and sensitivity”.

Court proceedings opened with an unsuccessful request by prosecution lawyer Adamos Demosthenous to exhibit a DVD containing mobile phone footage. This was recorded on the night of the complaint, showing the teen engaged in sexual activity.

The footage had been prepared onto a CD by Spiros Nikolaou, from the Nicosia police technology unit.

The trial within trial continues on Wednesday with testimony from a close friend of the accused called Rebecca who flew in from Britain.

The teenager’s psychologist from Britain is also due to give testimony via a teleconference because she is too busy to fly over.

Initially, the teenager had alleged that 12 Israelis raped her on July 17 at a hotel in the resort of Ayia Napa, a magnet for younger tourists attracted by its beaches and nightlife.

The Israelis aged 15 to 18 were later released without charge after the woman was arrested on suspicion of “making a false statement about an imaginary crime”.

The Israelis have denied any allegation of assault and have since returned home.

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