Apologies Ronk, I should have worded it better and will amend. Thanks for pointing it out and reminding me to proof read things before posting!ronk wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 3:39 pm >jim your first sentence has me a little confused: "Having spoken to a few leave voters my opinion is that they wouldn’t be acting like spoilt entitled brats crying because they lost".
Do you mean that you believe Leave voters would not have behaved like some Remain voters have had the "Leave" side lost the referendum? i.e. you mean "if they had lost" not "because they lost" (they didn't)
Referenda in UK are not legally binding as far as I know..but by a majority of 498 MPs to 114 MPs voted in favour of Mrs May triggering Article 50 in February 2017.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 58291.html
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Just looked at the petition graph the Photo Lady posted – Seemed to go flat out for the first three days but now seems to have lost its breath – I would be surprised now if it makes 7 million as the graph seems to be levelling off already
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I really really like your post Les Bean. . . . . . . . because right now, in politics . . . . . . . I don't know my A*se from my El*ow?? X Thankyou for giving your opinion.
Maggie B
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Mr Bean,
If what you say is true, wouldn't the powers that existed when the referendum was called, being more remainer than brexiteer, have ensured that those who voted were more likely to vote 'remain'.
If what you say is true, wouldn't the powers that existed when the referendum was called, being more remainer than brexiteer, have ensured that those who voted were more likely to vote 'remain'.
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He is so worried that there will be no Brexit at all he and others apparently are going to back Mays deal after all, what a paper hat!
David
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Isn't it great. Finally it seems that the will of the majority who voted will be adhered to. Democracy is a wonderful thing.
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Jimgym
I won't believe it until I see it, too many liars and cheats in power, all out for themselves at the end of the day.
Jackie
I won't believe it until I see it, too many liars and cheats in power, all out for themselves at the end of the day.
Jackie
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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Apparently the Government has rejected the Petition. I am sure Elvis and Mickey Mouse will be disappointed.
Alastair
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Nil illigitimi carborundum
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It's interesting to note that democracy is a one way street to many on here, quite put out that Remainers have the audacity to suggest a second referendum but are very supportive of May putting forward her failed plan for a third or even a possible fourth attempt to get what after all is a very poor deal through parliament.
Jim
Jim
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Personally I would welcome a second referendum Jim, AFTER the result of the first one has been enacted and had time to settle in. To me, that is democracy in action, as I have stated on here many times. IJim B wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:33 pm It's interesting to note that democracy is a one way street to many on here, quite put out that Remainers have the audacity to suggest a second referendum but are very supportive of May putting forward her failed plan for a third or even a possible fourth attempt to get what after all is a very poor deal through parliament.
Jim
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Say for arguments sake there was to be a second referendum, and the vote was the same, leave, would the remainers put up and shut up, I guess not !
Ludicrous to even suggest a second referendum, the government doesn't want to act upon the result of the first one !
Ludicrous to even suggest a second referendum, the government doesn't want to act upon the result of the first one !
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.
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No, on 2 accounts! Firstly, there isn't going to be a second referendum and secondly the remainers won't put up and shut up anyway!
Shane
Shane
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DUP aren’t backing her.... and another shambles of a day in parliaments;
I think the only option is;
Second referendum with two choices - Remain or Leave - plus a further option of, if Leave wins, then No Deal or May’s deal
I think the only option is;
Second referendum with two choices - Remain or Leave - plus a further option of, if Leave wins, then No Deal or May’s deal
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I think they should have a referendum with three options:
1. Remain
2. No Deal
3. May's Deal
If Remain gets over 50%, then remain. If not, then whoever came second wins. That way, the leavers won't get their vote split, which would be unfair.
1. Remain
2. No Deal
3. May's Deal
If Remain gets over 50%, then remain. If not, then whoever came second wins. That way, the leavers won't get their vote split, which would be unfair.
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Hi AlanJimgym wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:59 pmPersonally I would welcome a second referendum Jim, AFTER the result of the first one has been enacted and had time to settle in. To me, that is democracy in action, as I have stated on here many times. IJim B wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:33 pm It's interesting to note that democracy is a one way street to many on here, quite put out that Remainers have the audacity to suggest a second referendum but are very supportive of May putting forward her failed plan for a third or even a possible fourth attempt to get what after all is a very poor deal through parliament.
Jim
If your're quite happy to risk losing the EU rebates, joining the Schengen agreement and becoming part of the Euro area that's the way to go. We presently hold a good few opt_outs but if we do leave and vote to rejoin we will lose them all.
Jim
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The problem I see in those choices is, how will people know exactly what is in all the pages of 'May's Deal' ??
Trev..
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Hudswell
Wrong again; her agreement ties us to the EU without any say in the running of the EU and there's no walking away at a later date without putting us back to where we are right now.
I have read several synopses from both remain and leave groups and the general consensus it's a bad deal that leaves us worse off than the deal we have now.
Jim
Wrong again; her agreement ties us to the EU without any say in the running of the EU and there's no walking away at a later date without putting us back to where we are right now.
I have read several synopses from both remain and leave groups and the general consensus it's a bad deal that leaves us worse off than the deal we have now.
Jim
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So presumably if a second referendum were to happen we could ignore the result and carry on could we? What is the point of people voting if it’s going to be ignored?
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Jim B wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 9:02 amJim it’s irrelevant what I am happy to lose. I’m merely pointing out that the wishes of the majority who voted should be carried out. I didn’t vote in the referendum as I could t decide what to do. However I feel very strongly about the result being acted upon.Jimgym wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:59 pmPersonally I would welcome a second referendum Jim, AFTER the result of the first one has been enacted and had time to settle in. To me, that is democracy in action, as I have stated on here many times. IJim B wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:33 pm It's interesting to note that democracy is a one way street to many on here, quite put out that Remainers have the audacity to suggest a second referendum but are very supportive of May putting forward her failed plan for a third or even a possible fourth attempt to get what after all is a very poor deal through parliament.
Jim
Hi Alan
If your're quite happy to risk losing the EU rebates, joining the Schengen agreement and becoming part of the Euro area that's the way to go. We presently hold a good few opt_outs but if we do leave and vote to rejoin we will lose them all.
Jim