Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Interestingly, they have broken down the voting patterns and this is the conclusion;
This information provides much greater depth and detail in explaining the pattern of how the UK voted. The key findings are:
The data confirms previous indications that local results were strongly associated with the educational attainment of voters - populations with lower qualifications were significantly more likely to vote Leave. (The data for this analysis comes from one in nine wards)
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
The age of voters was also important, with older electorates more likely to choose Leave
Ethnicity was crucial in some places, with ethnic minority areas generally more likely to back Remain. However this varied, and in parts of London some Asian populations were more likely to support Leave
The combination of education, age and ethnicity accounts for the large majority of the variation in votes between different places
Across the country and in many council districts we can point out stark contrasts between localities which most favoured Leave or Remain
This information provides much greater depth and detail in explaining the pattern of how the UK voted. The key findings are:
The data confirms previous indications that local results were strongly associated with the educational attainment of voters - populations with lower qualifications were significantly more likely to vote Leave. (The data for this analysis comes from one in nine wards)
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
The age of voters was also important, with older electorates more likely to choose Leave
Ethnicity was crucial in some places, with ethnic minority areas generally more likely to back Remain. However this varied, and in parts of London some Asian populations were more likely to support Leave
The combination of education, age and ethnicity accounts for the large majority of the variation in votes between different places
Across the country and in many council districts we can point out stark contrasts between localities which most favoured Leave or Remain
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
This is the link to the article from the BBC....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-3 ... e=facebook
Now before people take offence, I do NOT think everyone who voted Brexit was of lower educational attainment....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-3 ... e=facebook
Now before people take offence, I do NOT think everyone who voted Brexit was of lower educational attainment....
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
As I mentioned on another thread, correlation does not equal causation...
You could have spent years dealing with the practical effects of the EU, but if you happened to have left school at 16 you are less capable of assessing its merits (according to this view) than a 22 year old with a Media Studies degree from an ex-poly.
The difference being that the (supposedly more intelligent) media studies student will be up to his/her eyes in debt which they will most likely never be able to repay...
You could have spent years dealing with the practical effects of the EU, but if you happened to have left school at 16 you are less capable of assessing its merits (according to this view) than a 22 year old with a Media Studies degree from an ex-poly.
The difference being that the (supposedly more intelligent) media studies student will be up to his/her eyes in debt which they will most likely never be able to repay...
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
You could also say that the graphs shows that people who don't like getting their hands dirty voted for remain. So what? I fail to understand the fascination in this.
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
That scatter diagram looks pretty convincing to me. I wonder what the coefficient of correlation is. Pretty high I would think.
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
'The Intellectual Yet Idiot' springs to mind with the whole Brexit, Trump debates.
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
I personally find the graphs that show age patterns to be more significant. That shows that the over 60's voted for Brexit, the under 60's to remain.
Turkeys voting for Xmas? or Wise old heads who know better? or, as I personally think, Age garners doubts, negative views and more conservative notions.... self-preservation over broader views?
Turkeys voting for Xmas? or Wise old heads who know better? or, as I personally think, Age garners doubts, negative views and more conservative notions.... self-preservation over broader views?
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Wise old heads who know better? Or wise old heads who want to turn back the clock to a time when Britain was great?
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
I would like to see a graph showing the spread of votes by usefulness to the general population of the chosen career path.
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
What would you say of the under 60's who voted leave? Or the ethnic minorities who voted to leave?Jimgward wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 2:15 pm I personally find the graphs that show age patterns to be more significant. That shows that the over 60's voted for Brexit, the under 60's to remain.
Turkeys voting for Xmas? or Wise old heads who know better? or, as I personally think, Age garners doubts, negative views and more conservative notions.... self-preservation over broader views?
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
One sentence in the report says it all for me -
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
As Dominic suggested on a different thread, with regard to Trump voting, there may be other factors involved, for example, those less educated are out of work and think that under Trump (or with Brexit) they will get more work.
But as HIC also pointed out, unemployment is relatively low in the USA. OK - there are some counties - 51 in fact - with unemployment above 10%, but this is not too bad really. Just a smattering throughout the country.
Whatever, it is a very interesting statistic.
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be racist.
And Trump is seriously racist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
As Dominic suggested on a different thread, with regard to Trump voting, there may be other factors involved, for example, those less educated are out of work and think that under Trump (or with Brexit) they will get more work.
But as HIC also pointed out, unemployment is relatively low in the USA. OK - there are some counties - 51 in fact - with unemployment above 10%, but this is not too bad really. Just a smattering throughout the country.
Whatever, it is a very interesting statistic.
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be racist.
And Trump is seriously racist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
So which category do you consider you fall into?OhSusana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:34 pm One sentence in the report says it all for me -
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
As Dominic suggested on a different thread, with regard to Trump voting, there may be other factors involved, for example, those less educated are out of work and think that under Trump (or with Brexit) they will get more work.
But as HIC also pointed out, unemployment is relatively low in the USA. OK - there are some counties - 51 in fact - with unemployment above 10%, but this is not too bad really. Just a smattering throughout the country.
Whatever, it is a very interesting statistic.
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be rascist.
And Trump is seriously rascist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
Educated or less well educated?
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Hmm, its interesting how the Leave voters are being denigrated. They're uneducated and now racist. I wonder what will come next.....
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Irrelevant to the argument.bromerzz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:50 pmSo which category do you consider you fall into?OhSusana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:34 pm One sentence in the report says it all for me -
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
...
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be racist.
And Trump is seriously racist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
Educated or less well educated?
It is the quality of the argument that matters. And here we are arguing pure statistics.
The statistics clearly show a strong correlation between certain voting patterns. Why?
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
I don't know, but it would be interesting to see some statistics on this! If any exist at all.
However, I must point out that immigration is a huge issue, and one that politicians have avoided confronting for decades.
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Where did I say they were out of work?OhSusana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:34 pm One sentence in the report says it all for me -
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
As Dominic suggested on a different thread, with regard to Trump voting, there may be other factors involved, for example, those less educated are out of work and think that under Trump (or with Brexit) they will get more work.
But as HIC also pointed out, unemployment is relatively low in the USA. OK - there are some counties - 51 in fact - with unemployment above 10%, but this is not too bad really. Just a smattering throughout the country.
Whatever, it is a very interesting statistic.
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be racist.
And Trump is seriously racist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
I said they did jobs more likely to be affected by the issues that Trump and Brexit capitalised on. That's what I thought I said anyway.
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Because the better educated don't do the jobs that are affected by cheap labour. If there was a flood of accountants into Britain lowering the wages of the locals, I am sure their opinion would change somewhat.OhSusana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:00 pmIrrelevant to the argument.bromerzz wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:50 pmSo which category do you consider you fall into?OhSusana wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:34 pm One sentence in the report says it all for me -
The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
...
My own opinion. Those less well educated in America - and maybe the UK - are more likely to be racist.
And Trump is seriously racist. The White Supremacists in America love him. And actively support the right-wing press - notably Trump's favorite Breitbart news thing.....
Educated or less well educated?
It is the quality of the argument that matters. And here we are arguing pure statistics.
The statistics clearly show a strong correlation between certain voting patterns. Why?
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
Apologies.
It was HIC who wrote -
It was the Rust Belt which helped Trump above all else. The promise of jobs and prosperity in communities which have sadly long since passed their sell-by date. The promise that Trump would slap huge penalties on imports from China and Mexico, which led blue-collar workers to believe that they would once more be in demand.
You wrote -
Could it not be that the masses voted for Brexit because they were more directly affected by the issues at stake
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Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
But they don't show causation...
So your assertion that thick, uneducated people voted Brexit because they are thick and uneducated has no proof or value - it is just a trolling insult to those that don't meet some unspecified higher standard that you would find acceptable.
When you have proof of causation get back to us...
Re: Reports show more breakdown of Brexit Voters - and results were in line with educational attainment!
There are various assumptions in your statement.
You are assuming that the better educated are employed. And those more poorly educated are out of work. Can that be shown statistically?
How is unemployment spread throughout the UK?
Several people I know - without a university education - went into banking - directly - or indeed in accountancy. So they might be classified as having a lower level of education.
Many people with PhDs struggle to get well-paid jobs; and in fact end up with low-paid ones. Or nothing at all.
Did those more poorly educated assume that they would stand a better chance of a job under Brexit?
And do they really want to do the cheap-labour jobs which many of the Poles and Eastern Europeans are doing currently in Britain?
Some well-educated people do low-paid jobs, completely contradicting your first sentence.
A lot of assumptions.