Divine retribution?

[surreyboy]

Wonder what the general consensus of opinion is?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39996592

[Jimgym]

Wonderful, serves him right. What purpose did it serve killing an elephant?

[panoscouse]

I do hope he heard his bones crack before he died a slow death.

[ApusApus]

Elephants 1 ........ marauding hunters (pick a number with lots of 0s in it!)


Shane

[PhotoLady]

Karma eh? Don't you just love it when it comes back to bite someone in the bum A shame that yet another magnificent animal had to die all for a bit of fun though

But hey, if the Tories win the election these people can just all come to uk and kill the foxes as well as carry on with the ivory trade, so really - some people have no reason to be sitting there feeling smug about it

[smudger]

Don't agree with the foxes killing, but what's the news on the ivory trade??

Shattered that yet another wild animal had to die but excstatic that it's dying moments resulted in the death of this utter nomark. So fitting. RIP dear Ellie.

[PhotoLady]

Don't agree with the foxes killing, but what's the news on the ivory trade??

It's sneakily been dropped from the 2017 manifesto....

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... ry-trading

[Rita Sherry]

Karma eh? Don't you just love it when it comes back to bite someone in the bum A shame that yet another magnificent animal had to die all for a bit of fun though

But hey, if the Tories win the election these people can just all come to uk and kill the foxes as well as carry on with the ivory trade, so really - some people have no reason to be sitting there feeling smug about it

Jules You have evidence that only Tories hunt foxes or rather hunted them?

For the record there has been a 23 year ban on international trade in Ivory but many people still own pieces which have legally been passed down through families. Whilst it is within the law to own Ivory it "is illegal to sell" anything created or carved after March 1947. Owners have to prove the date of their pieces before they can be sold but "most things" carved in the early 20th century are unlikely to be of great value.

Rita

[Firefly]

Lloyd,

Why do you think that it should be allowed ?

As I see it, it's a blood sport of the well heeled, what sort of sick mind ( and I do mean sick) gains pleasure in seeing a wild animal torn to pieces by dogs, or the painful bloody death of any animal for pleasure. We have made dog fighting, cock fighting, badger baiting, and every other blood sport of the working man illegal, but when it comes to money, we can neatly side step it.

With grouse shooting and fishing, the animals are eaten, not agonisingly torn apart for fun.

Jackie

[angieb]

My cat, unfortunately, has a penchant for bringing in live mice and letting them go in the house. I am now really skilled at catching them, either by hand or in a humane trap and putting them back outside, sometimes by putting my hand with caught mouse back through the cat flap at 3am! No matter how inconvenient it is for me, I couldn't contemplate killing them, so I have no idea what mindset these 'hunters' must have to want to kill for pleasure.

[surreyboy]

Somehow this seems to have gone way off topic (thanks Lloyd).
There is a world of difference between big game hunting and killing vermin (or perhaps you hadn't twigged that one Lloyd).

[DavidatLWH]

Over the years, I've asked several members of the hunting community (here and in the UK) how can a human being derive pleasure from killing an animal.

Never had a remotely reasonable answer.

I had a pond years ago, and occasionally had to kill a fish which was diseased and had no chance of recovery, but I didn't enjoy the process. Far from it.

[PhotoLady]

If there is a reason for animals to be culled - it should be done in a humane way, not with animals being ripped and torn to shreds with the young squirming pups being stamped on when the pregnant mothers' stomach is ripped open.

That is not "sport" - that is cruel and barbaric.

[Firefly]

LLoyd

So you would be happy to eat fox ? Maybe you would, but the people that carry out this cruelty and barbarism purely for their own pleasure, do not eat their victims. As for your ducks, foxes are often blamed for the killing of hens etc. when in fact it has been done by dogs. I have seen the carnage left when dogs have been at chickens. I know too what destruction dogs are capable of to other animals and indeed humans, but we don't hunt them.

It is sad that people hold the view that it's fun to kill, and as I said, the product of a sick mind.

Jackie

[WHL]

Agree with HIC Foxes are vermin... most of you who think they are cuddly animals, haven't got a clue, on the damage they do to other animals.

[PhotoLady]

It doesn't matter if they are vermin or not.... There is a way of culling in a humane manner and not turning it into a "sporting event".

[Lincoln]

Those of us brought up in the country know that the FOX is a very intelligent KILLER. We had lots of hens in the chicken runs. A fox will run round and round a chicken run. The curious hens all stick there heads out to follow the action of the fox. next time round the fox just bites off the heads of as many as he can. We see them the next morning. not a pretty site. I am in favour of Fox Hunting.

[Firefly]

Lincoln

Why ? why not a humane cull, rather than a jolly time for the wealthy ? If you can call it jolly, more like a revolting bloody spectacle to me.

To gain pleasure from seeing an animal torn apart is the product of a sick inbred cruelty. If any old Joe Bloggs does it with ordinary dogs they are prosecuted by the RSPCA, but get dressed up, get on horse, and hey presto, that's ok. No it's NOT.

Jackie

[panoscouse]

Good post Jackie.

Lincoln, I was always taught that It's a poor farmer that doesn't know how to protect his flock.
I was brought up in the countryside on a farm with over 2000 hens, most of them free range and without fences. In over 20 years I cannot recall losing even one hen to a fox and we were very isolated. Having a few dozen free range geese would soon put paid to any attempt of an intrusion.
Maybe you had the wrong type of fence.

[PhotoLady]

My dad used to keep hens when he was in his teens. A fox came and killed some of them.... So, he replaced them and also got a pig and some geese. No more dead hens after that.