The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

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The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by Jimgward » Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 pm

Oh dear, that went well.... not. UK's first attempt at playing a small fish now operating in the global economy.

"Admittedly, a Norwegian version of events relating to the fishing in Norway, but many of us will recognise more than a ring of truth in this, as we have seen the illegal way our government have handled various EU negotiations, the way they’re screwing up trade talks with Australia and New Zealand, and now the fishing fiascos.

1. March 16th 2021 - Norway, the EU and the UK agree on North Sea access and quotas, in which Norway and Britain will continue with each other's pre-Brexit access and quotas arrangement.

2. March 25th 2021 - Norway and the UK sit down to formalise this agreement bilaterally, at which point the UK informs Norway that it didn't really mean what it said before and that actually it now wants to restrict access for Norwegian vessels in British waters.

3. April 2nd 2021 - Norway officially informs Britain that this means everyone must get back together then and revisit the March 16th agreement. The UK responds by saying that it has nothing further to add and will not speak to the EU again until 2022.

4. April 28th 2021 - Norway officially informs Britain that it cannot even begin a year-long access haggle at this stage of the fishing calendar and must simply work around this new stance by the UK side. In the meantime it was nice knowing you, but please stay out of our waters too until you can make up your minds if you want to negotiate in good faith or not.

5. April 29th 2021 - the UK government announces officially to its own people that it's having "ongoing" talks with "stubborn" but "friendly" Norwegians, who are nevertheless now the "baddies" and are depriving UK citizens of their fish'n'chips.

6. April 30th 2021 - the Norwegian government announces a compensation scheme for inconvenienced Norwegian trawler companies and has opened talks with the EU concerning possible legal action against the UK for reneging on an agreement within three weeks (a new record, even for Johnson's outfit). As a courtesy, it has invited Britain back in late summer to see if they have learnt anything about negotiating in the meantime."

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Re: The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by Happy in Cyprus » Tue May 04, 2021 6:58 pm

It's a shambles, just like the Northern Ireland dispute which Boris shows no interest in resolving; probably because no resolution is ever possible.

Amazing how Liz Truss crowed yesterday about the 6,000 jobs which "may" arise as a result of a supposed deal with India...yet forgot to mention the current tremendous damage to the 12,000 employee UK fishing industry. Am sure it was a simple oversight ;)

I hear now that preparations are underfoot to allow to cheap labour to come from India to pick fruit and veg from UK farms. Funny, I always that was handled very capably by East Europeans? But perhaps not...and the realisation has dawned that we do need immigrant labour to do the jobs which Brits don't want to do.

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Re: The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by Happy in Cyprus » Thu May 06, 2021 6:10 pm

Pistols at dawn, anyone?

What on earth did Boris think he was going to achieve by sending in two coastal patrol vessels? If anything was designed to inflame tensions, that was. And what are the vessels supposed to do, who are they going to intimidate?

Read today about one Jersey fisherman who says that the UK government have got this completely wrong and that he will be siding with the French fishermen, as they have every right to be aggrieved.

Good old Boris, incompetence piled upon incompetence. He never did understand the Brexit deal he was signing up to.

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Re: The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by Jimgym » Thu May 06, 2021 7:43 pm

Jersey is a self-governing British Crown Dependency. It has responsibility for its own fishing rules.

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Re: The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by Dominic » Thu May 06, 2021 8:48 pm

Lets see what the leader of the Jersey fishermen had to say:

“It was inevitable that the French would kick off,” said the head of the Jersey Fishermen’s Association, Don Thompson. “But the reaction we’re seeing from France is almost like something you would see from Iran or Russia. They’re not just saying they can cut off the electricity supply, French fishermen are saying that they’re coming tomorrow [Thursday] to blockade the harbour in time to stop the ferries from coming in so there’ll be no food supply and no fuel coming into the island either. So it comes pretty close to an act of war, this.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... act-of-war

NB: that was from The Guardian, hardly known for being anti-EU.
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Re: The UK-Norway Fishing Dispute

Post by The Aquila » Fri May 07, 2021 8:23 am

So the French fishermen kick off, the French government threaten to cut off the electricity supply thus threatening the lives of the people in hospital, care home etc. Yet, because Boris sent some patrol vessels as a deterrent he’s in the wrong?

FFS!

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